Kureha One

Original Title: マブラヴ　オルタネイティヴ
Developer: âge (http://www.age-soft.jp/)
Release Date: 2006/02/24

Official (http://www.muvluv.com/product02_alt/index.htm) / VNDB (http://vndb.org/v92)


Description:
Muv-Luv Alternative takes place after the events of the original Muv-Luv. Alternative focuses on the life of Shirogane Takeru three years after Muv-Luv; Takeru wakes up believing that everything that had happened was just a dream. However, he notices something wrong: he has been sent back in time to the beginning of the events in Muv-Luv: Unlimited. But instead of letting a disaster strike again, he decides to help stop it before it even begins. The solution: helping to complete Alternative IV.

Game:

[Age] Muvluv Alternative.7z.001 (100 MB)
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[Age] Muvluv Alternative.7z.032 (100 MB)
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[Age] Muvluv Alternative.7z.034 (100 MB)
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[Age] Muvluv Alternative.7z.035 (100 MB)
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[Age] Muvluv Alternative.7z.036 (100 MB)
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[Age] Muvluv Alternative.7z.037 (100 MB)
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[Age] Muvluv Alternative.7z.038 (71,2 MB)
http://www.multiupload.com/2GFMUFG9SU

Translation project:
Amaterasu Translations (http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/index.php)

Complete translation patch:
Amaterasu Translations[/b]

Subtitled videos:
OP:
(http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/download.php?id=48)http://www.multiupload.com/54K6SQX82Z

Chapter 6 speech:
http://www.multiupload.com/E2AZY8FH7S

Chapter 7 speech:
http://www.multiupload.com/JFIV9ECYP6

Paul Radhabinod speech:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B1LG3ALP

OSTs, thanks to Anon:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9992zm23kqn9y

Muv-Luv, Muv-Luv Alternative and Muv-Luv Altered Fable complete CG-rips, thanks to Yuyucow:
http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=45774

yay
anyways thought the partial patch got released, didn't look at the tags XD

Should I wait for the full patch, or play as soon it's released. It's so hard to chose.

But of one thing I'm sure, this game will be the most wanted game in a long time.

guess theres no point trying the game now, if a patch is coming up

Getting 7-zip "unspecified error" upon extraction attempts, are those split by program other then 7-zip's own automatic volume splitter?

They were created with 7zip.

over 3.5 gig thats a big game.... il leave it till launch and then torrent it overnight... cant be arssed to keep clicking the links when im using the comp :P

Ever heard of JDownloader (http://jdownloader.org/)?

have now :D

wonder if they updated the files. last time i downloaded jdownloader, has to spend ages updating files before the program was useable

Doesn't take me very long 0:

In fact sometimes I think it's too fast.

IT'S HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE  ;D
http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/index.php?page=downloads (http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/index.php?page=downloads)

Is this full patch or is the first 6 chapters only a partial patch?

Only a partial one it seems. There will be two more patches that will cover the whole game.

As stated on Amaterasu's projects' page.

yay

The english engrish intro is quite hilarious. They should get seiyuu to do the english dubs for anime, at least then it'd be comically bad instead of just bad.

i heard one of the main girls dies in this one, hoping its a lie.... i kinda like them all...

Did you mean [spoiler]"only one girl survives the entire game"?[/spoiler]

.-.

I just finished reading unlimited. And you tell me this. Manayaaaaan. I'm sad. I want to play it now.

Tama is so cute, and I'm not even a lolicon.

I was exaggerating, but [spoiler]I only remember about Kasumi and another girl being alive at the ending.[/spoiler]

Rofl, I totally agree.

And not only that but they die and you have fun watching each of them die in a horrid way.

uh... spoiler tag please? duh i hate reading spoiler without warning like that sigh

Yea i have to agree.

Oh, no! Irrelevant people die when they are killed on the first pages of a VN. Someone spoiled it to me, and ruined the entire experience. The drama!

People die when they are killed.

I've not read any of the Muv-Luv series but I've been spoiled to hell and back.

think i heard that line in an anime recently, cant remember which one but thought, wow genius ::)

There is this Portuguese public figure who said "To be alive is the opposite of being dead." It's DEEP!

well you might not be bothered by spoiler, i understand your sacrasm but not everyone is fond of spoiler so yeah i respect your opinion

I'm bothered by spoilers, but to complain just because someone said that a bunch of nameless characters die in the first pages of a VN? Come on! If they had posted what's behind my spoiler tags, that would give you many reasons to be mad, but that?

I read manayan's spoilers.

T_T OH FUCK **** *** **** *****

something to that effect.

actually when i read the spoiler i dont even know what kind of characters died (which is my rant), after playing it, knowing that engrish speaking guys died (which honestly i havent seen any implication about them dying that is) it kinda clicks how insignificant that spoiler really are.

But then again, was i mad? or are you being sensitive to my "uh... spoiler tag please? duh i hate reading spoiler without warning like that sigh" did i even say "oh fuk i hate you for spoiling that shiet to me you bastard" ? no right? so yeah we dont need the drama, and sorry if i made u misunderstand anything, but really you need all those sarcasms? heh :D

I guess I shoulda used a spoiler tag but really... this is one of those cases where the wording is such that the spoiler told you almost less than not reading it at all since it was so vague and confusing.  It's more of a preview =P and a somewhat misleading one.

no worries mate, when i learn how insignificant that spoiler is, i even feel dumb myself :D but yeahh when i read it i kind of drift to thinking that someone significant died or something, well given how serious and grim dark alternative is from what people said i should have expected someone died, but .. yeah forgive my post regarding the spoiler

Actually, I do.

Otherwise you wouldn't be our "loved by everyone" Mana... or was it more "feared by everyone"?

Only if people fear words, but if that's the case, what are they doing on a forum?

Going berserk? Start trolling?

Stop talking about me. I have no fear of words D=

I'm not a troll!

okay putting all those aside..

damn muv luv alternative in my opinion really live to its hype, i just finished marathoning extra, unlimited and then went straight for alternative, and yeah it is just that good, some of the events in extra made some sense[spoiler]heh go figure if extra's takeru saw alternative takeru when he went for sumika's shoes, boom quantum paradox happening?[/spoiler] i love how they take on politics and conflicts in alternative, and how[spoiler]each characters has their own view, conflicts and side to take during coup de' tat, that ayamine's fiancee.. [/spoiler]

cant wait for next patch, when its complete i will replay muv luv all over again, this is one of the game where imo you need to marathon it alongside with the prequel to get the full effect of the story telling due to plot continuity

sooo for those who are wondering whether to wait for full patch or play the coup de 'tat patch, i would suggest wait for full patch, alternative story telling have power to make you wanting for more

quick question though for anyone who has played it [spoiler]so every route in extra, and every path you take in unlimited are canon due to paralel world theory? i remember seeing mikoto's unlimited end during takeru's flashback in the beginning of alternative[/spoiler]

To your last spoiler, yes.  But.. even so...

I really like the Muv-Luv games and this one is just great * in grafic and story sense* but i hate this story :'(  [spoiler]WHY WHY WHY!!????? DO THEY NEED TO KILL EVERY HEROINE :'(. PLEASE AYAMINE DON'T DIE.
and yeah Im not so sure if i like this one end thing. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well, I like Kasumi best so it's not a big deal for me... but ahem, at least some of the heroines survive and there's new ones... plus in the end you have him going back right?  There's always more versions where those come from, if you think about it... most of the heroines have already died in unlimited since only one of them get on the ship, America's plan is fail while the refugees make their way to a safe world.  Altered Fable is basically the happy epilogue of alternative ain't it?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]From what I got, Altered Fable is Kasumi messing around with Takeru's broken mind so that he can be happy.[/spoiler] But I hope to be wrong.

*laughs at his new title*

Mana, mana, mana, mana.

Iunno. I'm lacking something these days. Blah.

[spoiler]I don't think it is since Kasumi's ESP isn't capable of creating an illusion on that grand a scale, I think it's the 'if you have enough willpower' thing... as an unstable existence, Takeru fused himself into a world that he would have preferred... Yuuhi is there because he met her in alternative making the whole thing possible.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I read in a forum that it could be Sumikas doing ^^[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Ah, that reminds me, it would be possible with unit 00 and all..[/spoiler]

Spoiler chat T_T

Well, still better then them discussing it openly... *haven't played Alternative yet, and don't plan to until it's all finished*

So I heard that everyone who read the first partial patch is going to have to wait until 2020 to read the rest of MLA.

Hot news, Amaterasu Translations and Ixrec are in talks with âge about an official release. Until them no more MLA patches will be released.

The official news: http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/blog/?p=818#comment-1292 (http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/blog/?p=818#comment-1292)

Lucky me, I haven't played the partial patch, so I can't get any withdrawal symptoms regarding that matter.

I'm somewhere between yay and bah humbug... you help me decide which... I really shouldn't have read the first part of MLA...

That's just fucking great...

havent tried it yet so unaffected

Wise guy...

oh my god....i cant say how bad this news hit me, as long as age actually released the game in 2011 (what ixrec estimated when the project will be completed)...


but seeing how demonbane goes.. you know, here we go 2017 MLA release




bah  :-\

I really want to play the Muv Luv series T_T

Damn manga was good.

I've no record of 'fan-translation goes official' that succeed. Care to enlighten me, anyone?

*smirk @ demonbane*  ::)

NNL and minori

Soul Link and Kazoku Keikaku are the only ones that actually got released and we know how they went.


Are you another visitant from the future?

Oh, you guessed?
Damn, shouldn't have told that... *hops in his time machine and beams away*

Going by NoSense, we will have ef officially released before Muvluv, Osadai and Demonbane. Place your bets! Place your bets!

wait, if they are all licensed by jast, then that means we will see them, in like... never?

back to underground translation all over again

We still don't know if anyone will actually license Muvluv, but if it happens and the rewriting of the engine goes as well as with Demonbane, we will be playing an official release by 2020.

This isn't going to happen, Ixrec said if it takes to long to the game be released, he would release the patch as previous planned.

Thats reassuring to hear, but if any contracts end up being signed, then it would be difficult to release the patch without Ixrec receiving some kind of blowback.  Its not just a matter of leaking the patch would fix everything in that scenario.

True to that, just think licensing as a one way trip. Well, Ixrec can always release the patch posing as another translation team though, not amaterasu

rofl, don't assume people are stupid... I mean it's pretty impossible for another group to just happen to pop up and release a MLA patch, lol.

Not if they 'stole' the old patches and started working from that.

rofl, but that's assuming they stole the first patch and even then it would take most groups at least a year.

But of course, I hope someone will 'steal' the patch and start working on that, lol.  Well... unless they can give a nice definite release date that's in the near future... like within the next year or two.

Complete, buggy and without translated images patch on the first post.

full translation patch leaked, except certain scenes like the scene after the coup de taut arc where yuuhi does her speech. also does anyone know if there is a walkthrough/multiple endings cause i would really like to avoid

Spoiler please dont read if not played yet.
[spoiler]Marimo's death scene kinda gory, same with tama's death i would love to avoid having to play the game again. T_T[/spoiler]

There is only one ending, your choices won't make a difference. will only affect a scene by the end of the game which is related to the girl that you got more points with.

thanks i wanted to avoid having to play through again... i dont know this game kinda pissed me off the last chapter wanted me to throw my laptop out the window and then burn it. if this game aimed to get people emotional about non real characters then kudos to them i T_T cause that game had really graphic pictures at the worst moments.

It seems that there are another two scenes where your choices make a difference, I'll just quote Anon:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

P.S.: I've just updated the first post with subtitled videos of the untranslated scenes.

P.P.S.: I've updated the first post with all the available OSTs.

So how does this game compare to the origional muv luv?

I haven't played neither of them, but Muv-Luv only got translated thanks to Alternative and the fact that you need a lot of stuff from the original title to get what's going on.

There is also a fandisc that follows Takeru after Alternative's events, but since it goes back to a less serious tone like Extra, Ixrec won't touch it and, probably, no one else will do it.

Oh, and it's also the number one title on Erogamescape (http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/toukei_median.php?erogame=null&coterie=null). Take that as you will.

How it compares, Muv-Luv is your average High school drama love story, while alternative is a downpour of reocurring hatred for the game. but be warned there is very gory scenes much worse than devi-dead (lol eating corpses is funny to me now the way they portray it) and has tragedy seems to pile on like a snowball. worth playing if your a fan of serious visual novels like tsukihime, fate stay night, etc. cause this game has near no sexual content.

Don't forget to add that Alternative was to be released with Extra/Unlimited, and so, it's story wasn't written as the typical sequel to milk the franchise, but as a real third part to the story.

It is sad... that Muv Luv will likely not progress beyond Alternative.

Well, there are the Chronicles titles that explore what happens after Unlimited's ending and some stuff that happens before Alternative. I also don't know what they want to do with Total Eclipse or if it will just stay as a series of light novels and manga.

Nah, I just meant Age will probably never get up and do a proper followup for what happens after Alternative.  Though apparently they have plans.

Alternative's ending is considered the ending of alternative to be the closing curtain for Takeru and that they are gonna focus on someone else for a change. And what Yuuko said is basically what is going to happen so there isnt much of a follow up necessary, basically the whole game is Takeru on a power trip just to make himself feel better O_o.

Could you re-upload the game itlself? Most of the multiupload's forwarded links are dead, due to file deletion.

I'll only reupload it when all the links to one of the parts are dead. At this moment, all Megaupload links still stand. The rest of them barely last for a week, you can see it on most of my other uploads.

can someone give me a walkthrough for this game and how many endings?.

read previous posts, choices in the game are psuedo choices they only affect what is read at different points of the game but does not effect the ending, there is one ending.

I see,.then you can't choose any heroine endings?..am I right?.

There aren't any heroine endings, only some scenes with them.

do I need a points for the character scene or it is on the story?..

just need to select choices that support that heroine the most, such as supporting their plans, or backing them up and selecting to meet them, very straight foward choices.

Just cleared the game with Tama and Meiya related choices. Do I miss any important scenes by skipping Mikoto, Sakaki and Ayamine? Feels like it was too much trouble for such few scenes to do it again.

You only miss unique dialogue for each heroine but you dont miss any main storyline scenes just alternate scenes when you meet a heroine but your still stuck on a linear path set out for you.

Dunno if this has been mentioned already, but there does exist a subtitled version of the General's speech before the Yokohama arc as well.  It can be found at [Muv Luv Alternative] Paul Radhabinod speech translated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s48k0oFfeVA#)  (Dunno if it exists outside of youtube, that's the only place I've seen it.)

Thanks, I'll link it on the OP.

just so you know, Paul's speech vid wasn't actually translated (the mp4 link on first post)
I muxed in the subs here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B1LG3ALP (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B1LG3ALP)

Been wanting to play this... ... but I'm very very hesitant about it... ..
Lets just say an IDIOT friend spoiled me the ending and totally... ... ... killed... ... ... my mood to play this game...

...
So how did you guys enjoy this game?
Should I try playing it, despite the fact that I cannot forget the ending..
& how much I hate it?. >_>

inferno_flamex
play it, it's a great game, totally worth it

I hated the ending completely also

You should totally play it, Inferno.

Even tho I really liked the ending (save for a certain detail) MLA doens't greatly
rely on shock value. Nor is a complete build-up for the ending  (MLA had enought
build up with MLE and MLU)

It also has many great moments beside the ending.
Specially towards the end of the second Arc.
Is a great ride. From beginning to end.

That's what happens when I don't check what's on the links. Thanks!

Things that i HATE about this VN:
- TERRIBLE pacing
- Unlikable protagonist
- Glaring stupidity, some i'm willing to suspend my disbelief, while much of the other almost ruin the game for me
- Predictable Writing, A person who barely got any screentime suddenly gets a lot of attention? prepare for a funeral (The execution is nice though
- Lack of Flamethrower


Things that i like about this VN:
-Great Action, it's like im watching a full blown Anime, the only part where the protagonist is tolerable is when he's fighting, and that's it.
-The Mecha
-The Military stuff, despite any non mecha armanent are stuck in cold war era, and most of the military training are like basic Japan Defense Force training than a world that's under attack by aliens for 30 years and i expect the military go full Cadia, it's still nice.

My Verdict:
It's a great VN , most of the Cons above shouldn't nag other people too much, I read about a dozens of WH40K book so this VN kinda lacks the impact for me.

If only the ending ends with Humanity leading a fleet to invade the BETA home planet, or at least some space battle in the local star system, i'll hail this as the greatest VN ever

This is has been discussed several times on /jp/, if you wanted to read a well written story, you should just pick up a good book and get over it. Visual novels' writers aren't at the level of good book writers and when they try to best them, you get things like Umineko. As for the Warhammer 40.000 books, they tend to commit some of the same mistakes as the ones you complained about. It's not like they aren't entertaining, but they aren't masterpieces of literature.

Sorry, maybe i'm not being clear enough there

Don't get me wrong, i don't expect this VN to have Dan Abnett level writing or the next Shakespeare. the reason i put the WH40K novel there is not comparing the level of the writing, but because of them i'm used having my favorite character killed unfairly and the retardedly high death toll, so all of that death in MVA kinda lacks the impact for me.

This VN is the one of the greatest VN i have ever read, i enjoy it for what it is, most of the pros outweigh the cons, despite the predictable writing the execution is great.

By the way the essence of WH40K is Total Overkill, Retarded beyond imagination, and inconsistent fluff. all tuned up to 11 .
i don't think most of the cons i wrote there apply to WH40K.




   

Thought about giving this one a try, but cant download part 23. My megaupload stops downloading at 86.8% (tried 3 times now) and the other sites are dead

Anyone able to reupload that part?

Thanks

Try restarting your internet connection for a new IP, Megaupload sometimes is picky about those who try to download the same file several times in a row.

Its the fact that I dont believe I could stomach the ending, that Im seriously hesitating on this game...

Yes, I know that I'll be missing alot from this game since its a good game and all.. ...
But, kinda like the games from Key, I fear the time when I really do complete it I'll be in this sort of 'emo' state that's gonna affect me at least a week... HAHA!

I wouldn't worry about that.
I don't know how much you heard about the ending, but I'd say you are
missing a certain detail. A certain detail that will make the situation
much brighter.

Endings tend to hit me really hard, but MLA's ending didn't left me sad.
True, it left me wanting more, and that "There are still some loose ends"
Pretty much like Persona 4 true ending. That one did hit me hard tho.

No luck in restarting. .023 still stops at 86%

Anyone ever tried that before?

We can't expect great liberty in an universe that has the sentence "In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war." as it's motto, which is why Ciaphas Cain and the Angry Marines end up being pretty fun.

And regarding books, I found Dune's deaths to have a lot more impact when entire books revolved around the characters, just to watch them being shot to death by their own sisters, drowned by their distant granddaughters or burned with an entire world. I still have to read the last of Brian Herbert's Dune novels, but his prequels are very far from Frank's level and they even leave several plot holes.

Managed to get the missing file, and finish the game aswell

Interesting story, good enough to keep me from getting much sleep over the past few days.

IMO the patch is well made, and those things missing in the beta patch aint really a big deal.. If that has kept any of you guys from playing the game, then reconsider :)

Im not sure what impact all the choices have on the story.. It feels like they are just there to satisfy the reader

it changes the subplot story, IE certain scenes with a girl, but has no effect on the main plot at all, its a kinetic novel with a few minor sub chapters (optional reading material) included.

Ahh thanks for letting me know.

No reason to re-read it then (not yet anyways)

The first post was updated with a link for Amaterasu's final translation patch.

guys... may i request a torrent file?? anyone?? thanks in advance... ^^