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Title: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: laplacian on April 03, 2010, 11:30:35 AM
To Heart 2

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4041/347w.jpg)

http://vndb.org/v20 (http://vndb.org/v20)

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Following her graduation from middle school, Konomi Yuzuhara enters the same high school as Takāki Kono, her childhood friend. As the new school year begins, they meet their childhood friend Tamaki Kosaka, as well as many new accquaintances. Unbeknownst to the group, their encounters with each other will soon lead to many memorable adventures.

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The English patch is currently still in it's alpha phase, but some routes are already playable, and heck it's eastern, bet loads of you guys gonna be sitting around and bore your asses off over the holidays looking for something to do!

http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=12454 (http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=12454)       -        Post #1   : Konomi and Manaka patch
http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=12454&page=11 (http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=12454&page=11) - Post #165: Tama-nee patch
http://forums.novelnews.net/showpost.php?p=68371 (http://forums.novelnews.net/showpost.php?p=68371)          -        Newest patch, alpha 3. Konomi, Tamaki, Manaka and Yuma translated.
http://ittaku-subs.net/2011xmaspatch.7z (http://ittaku-subs.net/2011xmaspatch.7z) - newest patch. All routes translated apart from Sasara and Ruuko. (http://novelnews.net/2011/12/24/toheart2-partial-patch-released/ (http://novelnews.net/2011/12/24/toheart2-partial-patch-released/)

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Torrent:
Game is pretty old, I wouldn't bet on a torrent still being alive, you can always try Hongfire though.

MU:
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115572 (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115572)

RS:
http://rapidshare.com/files/371137395/ToHeart2_XRATED.part01.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371137395/ToHeart2_XRATED.part01.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371149516/ToHeart2_XRATED.part02.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371149516/ToHeart2_XRATED.part02.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371160498/ToHeart2_XRATED.part03.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371160498/ToHeart2_XRATED.part03.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371174603/ToHeart2_XRATED.part04.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371174603/ToHeart2_XRATED.part04.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371187729/ToHeart2_XRATED.part05.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371187729/ToHeart2_XRATED.part05.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371199821/ToHeart2_XRATED.part06.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371199821/ToHeart2_XRATED.part06.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371211312/ToHeart2_XRATED.part07.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371211312/ToHeart2_XRATED.part07.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371256583/ToHeart2_XRATED.part08.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371256583/ToHeart2_XRATED.part08.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371267562/ToHeart2_XRATED.part09.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371267562/ToHeart2_XRATED.part09.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371279268/ToHeart2_XRATED.part10.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371279268/ToHeart2_XRATED.part10.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371289124/ToHeart2_XRATED.part11.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371289124/ToHeart2_XRATED.part11.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371301416/ToHeart2_XRATED.part12.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371301416/ToHeart2_XRATED.part12.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371312096/ToHeart2_XRATED.part13.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371312096/ToHeart2_XRATED.part13.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371330499/ToHeart2_XRATED.part14.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371330499/ToHeart2_XRATED.part14.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371339101/ToHeart2_XRATED.part15.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371339101/ToHeart2_XRATED.part15.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371358322/ToHeart2_XRATED.part16.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371358322/ToHeart2_XRATED.part16.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/371362830/ToHeart2_XRATED.part17.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/371362830/ToHeart2_XRATED.part17.rar)
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Mana on April 04, 2010, 05:18:17 AM
Nice upload, laplacian!

I had to resist the urge to play Tama-nee's route since I found out that it had an alpha patch, but my backlog helped me resist it.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Exilion on April 04, 2010, 11:29:09 AM
Is there any guide available for this game yet  ???

Thanks for sharing with us laplacian
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: godgrinder on April 04, 2010, 05:11:45 PM
pretty keen to check out the english translation, played the chinese translation a few years ago but they censored all the h-scenes...
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: laplacian on April 04, 2010, 08:08:25 PM

Is there any guide available for this game yet  ???

Thanks for sharing with us laplacian

Don't think you really need a guide atm, depending what patch you download the other routes wont be translated, so it's fairly easy to see which choices are related to the character.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Sazabi on April 05, 2010, 09:27:35 PM
good to know Tamaki's route has been translated
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: dudex on April 06, 2010, 02:46:37 AM
3 gb for a vn is quite big are there lots of animated scenes?
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Kureha on April 06, 2010, 03:05:41 AM
I don't think there is any animated scenes at all... it's probably the voice files?
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: godgrinder on April 06, 2010, 08:52:49 AM

3 gb for a vn is quite big are there lots of animated scenes?

there are quite a few routes tho, not the 3-4 routes stuff you usually get.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Korassu on April 06, 2010, 01:44:00 PM
Its been a while since i last saw To Hearts 2, and have yet to try out this game, but i believe godgrinder is right. From what i remember there are quite a few different girls to choose from, konomi(little sister character), tamaka(big sister character), manaka(quiet library girl), karen(ufo otaku girl), ruri(alien girl), twin sisters, a tomboyish rich girl, and i think an android. Like i said its been a while, so i might be wrong on some of the names, but be forgetting a few, and its entirely possible not every single one is included in the game. But if you added all the possible good and normal routes from that many girls, not to mention bad routes(im pretty sure theres no harem route), i dont think its all that hard to get 3+gb of content.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: godgrinder on April 06, 2010, 04:52:57 PM

Its been a while since i last saw To Hearts 2, and have yet to try out this game, but i believe godgrinder is right. From what i remember there are quite a few different girls to choose from, konomi(little sister character), tamaka(big sister character), manaka(quiet library girl), karen(ufo otaku girl), ruri(alien girl), twin sisters, a tomboyish rich girl, and i think an android. Like i said its been a while, so i might be wrong on some of the names, but be forgetting a few, and its entirely possible not every single one is included in the game. But if you added all the possible good and normal routes from that many girls, not to mention bad routes(im pretty sure theres no harem route), i dont think its all that hard to get 3+gb of content.

pretty much right, the twin sisters and the android are in the same route so you get all 3 girls in that ending. there's also a time traveler girl and the student council president, so that's 9 routes all up, plus a gay ending with yuji.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: dudex on April 06, 2010, 11:02:38 PM
too bad i was hoping for animated scenes

everything seems to work fine. i recommend getting this patch which combines all 3 here

http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=12454&page=12 (http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=12454&page=12) (post 178)

it works fine for me tho i havent really gotten that far. but i noticed that it translates some of the parts the solo patches didnt.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Shmookle on April 11, 2010, 11:17:51 AM
For those too lazy to read all the posts on the subbers forums.. NONE OF THE COMMON PATH IS TRANSLATED

Only parts the are translated are the parts the involve the specific girl so its more or less, its half JP half ENG. So you won't get to learn anything about the other girls but if your fine with that then go for it. I did the Tama-nee route and it all checked out. Haven't tried the other two yet tho but one of the posts mentioned that a couple of the events with Manaka were still in JP (script was translated but not entered).

Judging from the posts those waiting for a full version will probably be waiting for a long time. From the posts its pretty much being done by one person with the rare ocassional helper.

As far as a walkthough goes, you don't really need one. When it goes to the town map part just pick the girl your after, if she doesn't have an event you can choose someone else or just go to your house.

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Nine routes sounds about right since there are 9 memoir slots (h scenes) and each girl is likely to only have one scene.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: sengoku7 on April 14, 2010, 10:14:50 PM

As far as a walkthough goes, you don't really need one. When it goes to the town map part just pick the girl your after, if she doesn't have an event you can choose someone else or just go to your house.

Not so entirely true. To get to the end of the Manaka route you have to talk to Yuma some amount of times. I'm not to sure how many times but if you just ignore Yuma completely while trying to get through Manaka then around May 8 or 7 you will get a different what may be the bad ending.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Shmookle on April 15, 2010, 08:36:36 PM


As far as a walkthough goes, you don't really need one. When it goes to the town map part just pick the girl your after, if she doesn't have an event you can choose someone else or just go to your house.

Not so entirely true. To get to the end of the Manaka route you have to talk to Yuma some amount of times. I'm not to sure how many times but if you just ignore Yuma completely while trying to get through Manaka then around May 8 or 7 you will get a different what may be the bad ending.

Yea, I just found that out yesterday ><

Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: inferno_flamex on April 15, 2010, 09:24:00 PM
Sooo.. Liek.. Im just wondering...
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... Like how the hell did you guys play the game without the common path? LOL...
You guys really cant wait for the full patch huh? XDDD

.. So like how 'important' is this common path anyway?
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Kureha on April 15, 2010, 10:20:37 PM
I'm not going to go through this game until the common path is complete.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Shmookle on April 16, 2010, 07:22:55 AM

Sooo.. Liek.. Im just wondering...
...
...
... Like how the hell did you guys play the game without the common path? LOL...
You guys really cant wait for the full patch huh? XDDD

.. So like how 'important' is this common path anyway?

I have a weak willpower....  Well that and being stuck in the backseat of a car for an 8 hour drive (one way...) with nothing but a laptop for entertainment.  ;)

As far as playing without the common path... well I just skipped anything not in english lol...

It depends on the game, since some can be played without the common path. If the common path is generally just the day to day life of the main character and the events with the girl/girls in question are seperate then you "can" still play the game. Most games aren't playable but every now and then its doable. Other than that with the combined patch if your only going after 1 of those 3 girls you won't be missing THAT much. Tho some events with yuma and karen (i could be wrong on names) will be in japanese.

I'll probably wait for a more finished patch before I replay the game again.

Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: laplacian on April 16, 2010, 01:19:53 PM
The Problem are the release dates, it's like one route per year =/ Gonna take a while till anything like an all translated alpha patch shows up.
Title: Re: [H-Game][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Sazabi on April 16, 2010, 09:24:23 PM
well, cant expect much speed-wise since apparently its a one man team doing all the work
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: kinunatzs on November 29, 2010, 12:49:37 PM
can someone post an english walkthrough
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: sazabi on November 29, 2010, 08:35:39 PM
dont really need a walkthru, pretty much just keep picking the girl you want if she turns up on the map screen
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: kinunatzs on November 30, 2010, 04:57:10 PM
ok thx for the advice
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: laplacian on January 28, 2011, 08:47:57 PM
updated with the newest patch.
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: sazabi on January 28, 2011, 09:15:32 PM
time for a reinstall...
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: KoutoutekiSonzai on January 28, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
When the translator announced that he needs help to finish the project or it'll take a few more years, I was surprised that nobody has helped the guy yet.  If my Japanese was better, then I'd lend a hand, but alas...
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Yossarian762 on January 28, 2011, 11:16:51 PM
You should edit the tag to say Partial English if it's not complete. Thanks for keeping the thread it updated though.
Title: Re: [H-VN][English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: sazabi on January 29, 2011, 09:07:09 AM

When the translator announced that he needs help to finish the project or it'll take a few more years, I was surprised that nobody has helped the guy yet.  If my Japanese was better, then I'd lend a hand, but alas...

shame he cant get help to speed up the project
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Mana on January 29, 2011, 09:42:34 PM
If no one cared about the original ToHeart when it was a huge hit in Japan, why would they care about the second one?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: sazabi on January 29, 2011, 09:46:48 PM
don't know about the first but the second one has Tama-nee!!, nuff said
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Rebirth on January 30, 2011, 05:24:25 AM
How may routes is there over all?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: sengoku7 on January 30, 2011, 05:56:47 AM
I think it was 9
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: KoutoutekiSonzai on January 30, 2011, 04:01:11 PM
Yeah, there are nine routes.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: dudex on February 01, 2011, 12:23:17 PM
whenever the game has the those full screen effects it goes really slow. it takes me like 30sec to go from main menu to options or game to the save menus.

anyone know what the problem is? how do i speed it up?


*edit* after playing around with the options i found how to speed it up. its under the middle menu toolbar button,  the second choice with 4 options top being fastest and bottom being slowest.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: davidlu9837 on February 01, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
Decided to give it a go now that the alpha 3 patch is out but after installing the game and patch I can't get the game save/load function to work.  Anyone else having a problem with this?  Everything else seems to work fine.

Any help appreciated.

EDIT:  NVM  I got it to work after reinstalling and applying patch files.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Exia on June 24, 2011, 06:43:35 AM
any news about the game's status?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: KoutoutekiSonzai on June 25, 2011, 02:14:35 AM

any news about the game's status?
Its around 56%.  The translator has stated that the current ETA for the game to be finished is 2013.  The reason for the slow progress is that the translator is basically by himself and he needs more translators in order to finish the project faster.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Exia on June 25, 2011, 08:04:06 AM
that long? what a shame ! :(
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: zmil on July 03, 2011, 12:12:06 PM
problem with slow scene,,,,first ,,,install,,,and play with japanese,,text,,,save,,first,,,then exit   then,,,patch it,,,then play,,,it will work sfter that..
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: sazabi on December 24, 2011, 11:49:15 PM
new patch out , translation is now at 65%-ish
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Fiske on December 26, 2011, 07:26:18 AM
Anyone tried the patch yet? It says its still alpha, but that some of the routes are complete?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: laplacian on December 26, 2011, 04:20:37 PM

Anyone tried the patch yet? It says its still alpha, but that some of the routes are complete?

First post.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Fiske on December 26, 2011, 07:18:40 PM
Ohh, did you just update the first post? When i looked yesterday, im pretty sure i didnt see anything regarding the patch..

Might be my mistake though

Ohh and whats up with Rapidshare being this fast again? 4.8mb/sec and im not a premium!
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: laplacian on December 27, 2011, 12:40:40 AM
I only added the latest patch today. Though the other patches already had a full route description next to them, effectivly answering your question =P
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Fiske on December 27, 2011, 07:22:01 AM
Thanks for the latest patch btw. I will give it a try
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: trioda on June 03, 2012, 01:47:47 PM
yo laplacian, I already download all of RS 1 to 17 but still I cant install the game  :'(. should I buy game first or I did I miss something?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Geckoey Lurker on June 03, 2012, 01:58:21 PM
Did you extract them? Download Winrar or 7zip and use one of them to extract from the first part (e.g. ToHeart2_XRATED.part01.rar)

Then you'll probably need to install it using the extracted ISO. Get Daemon Lites and mount the extracted file with that, then you'll be able to install it. Remember to put your PC in Japanese Locale.

After all of that, patch the game into English and play.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: trioda on June 05, 2012, 09:49:33 AM

Did you extract them? Download Winrar or 7zip and use one of them to extract from the first part (e.g. ToHeart2_XRATED.part01.rar)

Then you'll probably need to install it using the extracted ISO. Get Daemon Lites and mount the extracted file with that, then you'll be able to install it. Remember to put your PC in Japanese Locale.

After all of that, patch the game into English and play.

mate, its working, i never knew in order to play this game need daemon lites ;D time to enjoy my lovely day 8)
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: trioda on June 05, 2012, 05:08:52 PM
OK, i did instal the game and able to played it, but still i don't understand how to patch the game since i don't have locale Japanese my computer couldn't read option on game :-[, any instruction how to patch it will very helpful  :)
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Geckoey Lurker on June 05, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
The patch is in a .7z file which mean you gotta download 7-Zip to use it or it won't work (Winrar will says its corrupted or something like that), inside is a folder named "2011xmaspatch", open it and drag-drop everything inside it to wherever you installed the game (C:\Program Files\Leaf\ToHeart2 XRATED by default) and then have fun.

If you get super slow transitions, click on the second menu on the top, the second option again and chose the.. second choice yet again (or the first if you want instant without any transitions)

You might also have to run the game as an Administrator if you can't save/load.

Also, the edit button exist for a reason. (or modify, never noticed it was called that on here)
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: trioda on June 06, 2012, 03:34:34 PM

The patch is in a .7z file which mean you gotta download 7-Zip to use it or it won't work (Winrar will says its corrupted or something like that), inside is a folder named "2011xmaspatch", open it and drag-drop everything inside it to wherever you installed the game (C:\Program Files\Leaf\ToHeart2 XRATED by default) and then have fun.

If you get super slow transitions, click on the second menu on the top, the second option again and chose the.. second choice yet again (or the first if you want instant without any transitions)

You might also have to run the game as an Administrator if you can't save/load.

Also, the edit button exist for a reason. (or modify, never noticed it was called that on here)

HOLY MOLY, its work :o, oh my finally my dream has came true ;D i was hopping to play this game for ages now its become reality, thx a lot Geckoey Lurker ;).
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: raven on June 01, 2013, 02:14:33 PM
Anyone know how to finish the Twin route. I have tried different combination of choices and get most of the scene (I think) but I still go to the deadend in the twinroute after the android show up.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Geckoey Lurker on June 01, 2013, 05:42:26 PM
I don't have the game installed anymore, but here's the Japanese Walkthrough I used for the game:
http://eternity-space.jp/HP-game/toheart2x-0menu.html

The Himeyuri twins' page is this one:
http://eternity-space.jp/HP-game/toheart2x-1konomi.html
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: raven on June 03, 2013, 10:35:36 AM
thanks Geckoey, I actually figured it out, missed a scene in the part. But ... WTF is this ending?!?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: LordSendo on June 06, 2013, 07:26:11 PM
All Links are dead... Anyone able to re-up them?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Fiske on June 14, 2013, 03:45:00 AM
Ahh this game was fun! Kinda sucks its partial.. Is it still considered an active project?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Geckoey Lurker on June 14, 2013, 04:30:42 AM
Latest update dates to 22th December, 2012.

VNTLS (http://vntls.org/project/to-heart-2/) and where the project originated (http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=35817).

Edit ---
Missed LordSendo's post somehow, I'll see if I can upload it on MF or MEGA in the following days.

Edit 2 ---
Might as well just upload it now, 16 parts ( 2.95 GB (4.2 GB uncompressed)): https://mega.co.nz/#F!LFIVXASa!R2nfB09bFsM8Xkq4Vftw9A (https://mega.co.nz/#F!LFIVXASa!R2nfB09bFsM8Xkq4Vftw9A)
Currently uploading so refresh every 5~15 minutes for another part.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: LordSendo on July 12, 2013, 05:46:27 PM
Thanks! Your a life saver, But now i am having a issue where the game is very slow...
I mean the transitions take forever the rest of it works great just changing location takes about 2-5 min each time =.=';

Any idea how to fix?
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: Geckoey Lurker on July 12, 2013, 07:45:05 PM

If you get super slow transitions, click on the second menu on the top, the second option again and chose the.. second choice yet again (or the first if you want instant without any transitions)

You might also have to run the game as an Administrator if you can't save/load.
Title: Re: [H-VN][Partial-English] To Heart 2 - Xrated
Post by: LordSendo on July 15, 2013, 04:12:26 AM
Thanks! dunno how i missed that post...  probably skimming through the 3 other pages lol